Thursday, July 31, 2008

when immortals become MORTALS

Have you ever imagined an immortal? Actually, an immortal in disguise as a mortal? Well, these people are those that really stand out in the crowd. No matter what shape and size they take, they still shine upon the others. They can be fat, ugly, beautiful, tall, anything in fact. More than often however, people look upon them as somebody different, someone more unique than the others that they usually befriend.

I've come across some of these so called "immortals". Well, one thing that fascinates me most is that these kind of people do not really "feel" emotionally. They do things after thought, in a very appropriate manner, they handle things more maturely for their age, they think beyond and out of the box, most of all, they see things in a different manner. They look at both sides of the coin, they consider that a cup is half full AND half empty, they see the good as well as the bad. Whereas some mortals just see things one-sided, or either choose to do so.

Another thing that fascinates me is that "immortals" know what they want in life. They know where their path is headed. They see the lane far beyond the imagination of the normal humankind. They are crystal clear of what they want to achieve and how to do so.

My topic : " when IMMORTALS become...mortal.." I've noticed over a distance of time, a particular person. A person that has somewhat changed my life in some way. That immortal showed me great confidence, great achievements, great dreams of the world tomorrow. That immortal painted a picture so real and genuine that one could actually feel life in that picture. That immortal showed me great passion, great leadership, great persistence, great things that can be made to come true no matter how hard it is. That immortal could change my thoughts with one delicate string of words mouthed with a soothing, beautiful voice. And that voice, i swear, could reach out to almost anybody in that crowd. That voice was trained to touch the soul of any mortal in the crowd. That voice WAS as pure and innocent as a baby dove, still, it reached out to the thousands of people, touched their hearts... and souls.

However, when the immortal becomes mortal..

The "once-immortal" starts to realize the pain that a mortal goes through. He starts to feel the pain and pressure that puts him out. He is breathless within seconds of anger, sadness and confusion. He was once innocent to the outside danger. But now, as naive as he is, he is vulnerable to all the things that he once did not believe in. He did not believe that a person could endure so much stress and pressure that it killed her. He did not believe that a person could fail in an examination. He did not believe that pizzas were made out of dough!! ( lolz, the last one is a joke, don't take it seriously..)

(Anyway..)

The "once-Immortal" now knows what it feels like to be betrayed by a loved one. The " once- Immortal" now feels the pain, anger and confusion when things go very wrong. Hurt runs through the soul of the innocent being, awakening the little mortal-self in him. Time passes on, and soon, the "immortal" finds himself a "mortal"...

A mortal that falls in love as easily as a normal being. A mortal that falls to the ground more easily when he encounters danger and confusion. A mortal that is weak and shaky as a leaf. A mortal that is no longer able to see both sides of the coin. A mortal that is blinded by the mist of confusion and deceit.. A mortal that lives only as a silhouette in the dark shadows, unseen, unable, and unfriendly.

Seems strange how a person changes when things no longer goes his way. Strange how fast a person can change in that spur of a moment where things happen in a flash. Looking back, all is but a blur. But still, that spur of moment changed that person.. That spur of a moment changed an IMMORTAL to a MORTAL...

Tuesday, July 8, 2008

The things those FAKERS do..

You can go on and live on your dream of fantasy.

You can go on and think that you were born in this world to be recognized the moment you landed both your feet on this peaceful ground.

You can go on to create trouble and grieve in other people’s life.

Just let me tell you this, I do not give a d*mn on what you think about me.


I do not care even if you pretend not to notice my existence these few years.

I do not care in the least what is going on in your life.

So, don’t act as if you’re the greatest and that everyone should worship the ground you walk on.


You may think what you have done all these years could not be more wrong.

You may think you know every single thing,

You may say that no one knows me more than you do.


Whatever it is, I do not know it, neither do I have the interest to know it.

Whatever you do and think is out of my interest.

Why can’t you just take away that fake mask of yours?

Change for the better instead of ruining your own self.


You may think that all these achievements accumulated throughout these years may seem great, but deep inside have you ever wondered how much happiness were there in it?

It’s all a fake. It doesn’t come out from a sincere heart in whatever that you’ve done.

Behind that fake mask of yours is nothing but deceit, treachery, lies, forlorn hopes..

You’ve got nothing in your life.






I could forgive you for every mistake that hurt me.

I could ignore the fact that you tried to make my life miserable,

I could forget every misunderstanding that ever occurred between the two of us.

But however much effort on my side is put in, it’ll never change things if you never buck up.


You live in a dream that only exists to your own interest.

Wake up from your fake fantasy,

Breath the air we all breath in.

Live the life we live.

There’s nothing more special about you than it is about me.


Get up and stand on your own feet,

There’s much that you can do in life.

I’m so sick of it all these years.

So, for once and for all,

Just WAKE UP and stop being such a FAKE!!!

Wednesday, May 28, 2008

You'll make a fine one, dear!!

I thought it was easy
I thought it was simple
I thought I could get past through it
But in the end, I realised that I could not..

It seemed like yesterday,
I was bragging about it,
Then it hit me like a lightning bolt though,
when I finally came to my senses and realised it wasn't so simple after all.

It strucked me deeply,
I felt as if the whole world would come down.
It made me wonder,
if I had really made the right choice after all.

Now I'm hanging on the line,
doubtful whether this was what I wanted it to be.
Will it ever be ...
Will I ever succeed..

Whatever it is.
"okay"
"I'll do it!"

yes!! I can do this!!!
I really can make it!!
It's the only way..
loose or win is not That important anymore..
It seems almost unlikely it'll turn out perfectly..
But at least..there's something..
there's the fruit of my labour..

ANd i'm going to make it happen.
Yes i will.
Be it good, be it bad..
It'll be something I'm going to be REALLY proud of!!

"YES!!"

"Malaysia boleh, I pun boleh!!!"

Saturday, May 24, 2008

Kata Lawan

Here's a toast to all students out there clever enough or else say, have the right humour to do this. I got this out of an e-mail by the way>>>


Murid : Selamat pagi, cikgu.

Cikgu : (Menengking) Mengapa selamat pagi sahaja? Petang dan malam awak doakan saya tak selamat?

Murid : Selamat pagi, petang dan malam cikgu!

Cikgu : Panjang sangat! Tak pernah dibuat oleh orang! Kata selamat sejahtera! Senang dan penuh bermakna.Lagipun ucapan ini meliputi semua masa dan keadaan.

Murid : Selamat sejahtera cikgu!

Cikgu : Sama-sama, duduk! Dengar sini baik-baik. Hari ini cikgu nak uji kamu semua tentang perkataan
berlawan. Bila cikgu sebutkan perkataannya, kamu semua mesti menjawab dengan cepat, lawan bagi
perkataan-perkataan itu, faham?

Murid : Faham, cikgu!

Cikgu : Saya tak mahu ada apa-apa gangguan.

Murid : (senyap)

Cikgu : Pandai!

Murid : Bodoh!

Cikgu : Tinggi!

Murid : Rendah!

Cikgu : Jauh!

Murid : Dekat!

Cikgu : Keadilan!

Murid : UMNO!

Cikgu : Salah!

Murid : Betul!

Cikgu : Bodoh!

Murid : Pandai!

Cikgu : Bukan!

Murid : Ya!

Cikgu : Oh Tuhan!

Murid : Oh Hamba!

Cikgu : Dengar ini!

Murid : Dengar itu!

Cikgu : Diam!

Murid : Bising!

Cikgu : Itu bukan pertanyaan, bodoh!

Murid : Ini ialah jawapan, pandai!

Cikgu : Mati aku!

Murid : Hidup kami!

Cikgu : Rotan baru tau!

Murid : Akar lama tak tau!

Cikgu : Malas aku ajar kamu!

Murid : Rajin kami belajar cikgu!

Cikgu : Kamu gila!

Murid : Kami siuman!

Cikgu : Cukup! Cukup!

Murid : Kurang! Kurang!

Cikgu : Sudah! Sudah!

Murid : Belum! Belum!

Cikgu : Mengapa kamu semua bodoh sangat?

Murid : Sebab saya seorang pandai!

Cikgu : Oh! Melawan!

Murid : Oh! Mengalah!

Cikgu : Kurang ajar!

Murid : Cukup ajar!

Cikgu : Habis aku!

Murid : Kekal kami!

Cikgu : O.K. Pelajaran sudah habis!

Murid : K.O. Pelajaran belum bermula!

Cikgu : Sudah, bodoh!

Murid : Belum, pandai!

Cikgu : Berdiri!

Murid : Duduk!

Cikgu : Saya kata UMNO salah!

Murid : Kami dengar KeADILan betul!

Cikgu : Bangang kamu ni!

Murid : Cerdik kami tu!

Cikgu : Rosak!

Murid : Baik!

Cikgu : Kamu semua ditahan tengah hari
ini!

Murid : Dilepaskan tengah malam itu!

Cikgu : (Senyap dan mengambil buku-bukunya keluar.)

Friday, May 23, 2008

YIN'S THEORY

First, I have something important to say. It's about how some people are so sensitive when they are approached with questions or statements related to sex, or mildly saying....porn.

Ahh.The human mind is a fascinating thing. When someone is approached on a topic related to porn, their mind instantly jumps to the conclusion that one is talking about sex. This is unfortunately the product of our society conscience, which leads to the misunderstanding of the human mind over subjects or topics such as these.

Porn I would say is merely a ......( i dunno not know how to say.. =.=" )
pardon me, anyway, a person is not perfect. It would be excusable and understood,I presume,that one has to be forgiven for not understanding too much about porn.

But then looking closer into the human mind, you find people thinking in different ways, different perspectives, different angles..you find these people react differently. Of course, it all varies and depends, not excluding factors like family background, circle of friends, environment..etc..

Take for example, you see instant difference in PCGHS students and CGL students. PCGHS students mostly keep to their circle of friends. They hardly want to risk anything. Worst thing is they do not believe that they can make a difference in life.
But CGL students are different. You see them reacting to any situation. They are always alert and ready to response to "stimuli". Of course I would not dare to further comment on any other things, lest the two schools should team up and boy-cot me. WAHH, that time you'll have to save me..cz I wrote this post for the sake of you guys..

But seriously, people of the same age, same gender, same race and colour(I'm not a racist) can think, act and talk in different ways, most amazingly, its all because of the environment and the circle of friends, ain't it not?

Ahh..which you can see, ladies and gentlemen, it just proves another theory of mine. Which I proudly name it - YIN'S THEORY !!

Yes, leave any of your mindsets with me..or what you young people always say "the brain"...
Leave your mindsets with me if you feel like being updated on the YIN'S SECOND THEORY!! But don't give me a heart attack by leaving comments and telling me that my theory doesn't exist. (because it does and i can prove it to you if you would just log in to www.yin's theory.com)
It's all proven there. There's even a certificate issued by me, myself, on the existence on this spectacular, amazing and tremendously interesting theory of mine. So, till then, my young people..


































p.s. okay, I admit it is crap, but then, i've nothing on my mind currently. See, its empty. I need oxygen!! Things have been so taxing lately..Arrghh, gonna break down!! It's a mental-case nut-case!! =.="

Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Congratulations yin, you are 35% not Malaysian.

That means you're as Malaysian as...


Michelle Yeoh!

How Un-Malaysian Are You?

Love has a hem to her garment that reaches to the very dust. It sweeps the stains from the streets and lanes, and because it can, it must. - Mother Teresa


To succeed in life, you need two things: ignorance and confidence. - Mark Twain


Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work. - Stephen King

Friday, May 16, 2008

Mixed Fruit *

lolz..exams are SO-NOT-FUN!!
waking up early..sleeping damn late...is this what life was supposed to be like?!?
why don't anyone stress on happy childhood anymore? lolz..okay..not childhood..teenagehood perhaps..

but then living on a hectic schedule for years, don't people tend to get bored? everything is in a mess and a bustle. There's hardly even time left ater piano lessons, art lessons, tons and tons of projects?? not to mention..HOMEWORK....i sooo dread homework. Especially chinese. English is just fine to me, why do we even need chinese. especially if your chinese is like..hmm..bad?!?

And of course, anyone who knows me knows that my chinese wouldn't stand a chance compared to a kindergartner..it like, so terrible..i could faint if you asked me to sit quitely and memorise chinese vocabs and all. It would be far too boring. Chinese, i wouldn't say is useless. but then, we should be given the option to choose what subjects to take in the exam. It's so unfair that anyone has to face something unwillingly.

As i Always say, nobody should be forced to do anything they dislike, least make any monumental contribution against their will. Somehow, we are forced to study certain "hateful" (it comes a lil' strong here) things. THe interest isn't simply there. Why not use that time to learn more new and interesting things, rather than waste time staring at a book or either staring into the face of boredom.

As for sejarah, i would refrain from critisizing the subject. I know some people may hate the subject. Facts and all to memorise.. But then coming to think of it, at least there is something solid for us to study.As long as you are willing to study, you'll surely score, and no doubt about that. At least it's not like CHINESE, totally indepictable.

Chinese may be a beautiful language, goodness knows. I do NOT want to know bout it.. But then, it never did occur to me that it was a favourable language. It is not in my grasp somehow, perhaps it will never be.. But let the passing time prove that. For now, it's all about living life to the fullest for me. Life has so much to give, if only we could appreciate every chance and opportunity. Some people do not really appreciate the beauty of life and what it has in store, not me though. Live is unpredictable, full of sound and fury. Colour your life with passion and vibrant colours. At the end of the day, or when rewinding memories of the past, U'll find yourself a very contented person. At least you have been there, done that. Its the process that counts. Even though you don't acheive the best and beat the best of the best, you're a winner yourself.As long as you have the courage to stand for what you want and what you think is right, you'll have enough to brag about the rest of your life.

Just that day, an innocent friend of mine wailed to me that she had not been able to concentrate on her studies and asked me to advise her. Then we came to a topic about life. I told her to cherish every moment in life. May it be good, may it be bad, it may be frightening at times, but then at least you have experienced it. You have done what you think is right. I then asked her if she was happy with her current life. She said so-so. I then reasoned to her that she was missing out a lot in life. She did not have anything to be proud of. She had only faint memories of the past to accompany her forever. It was really sad. REally sad to see that her parents brought her up only the find the child not appreciating the life that they gave to her. Were her parents effort to be wasted after so many years of nurturing their only child?? All their hopes on her would just vanish in a blink of the eye. These pitiful scenarios often happen in many families where the child does not appreciate life. I questioned her again, was it worth it that jz a few moments of lagging behind would completely destroy her life? Did she want the reminisce the past and find that she had acheived nothing in life? Would it be too late than to regret??

The answer is up to you to decide. If you chose what you think is right, be prepared to face the worst, or perhaps the best. Those blissful moments in the past may just be a pigment of imagination to one, to be cherished and thought of. But without the future, would there be anymore memories? Memories worth reminising?

So, never do complain if you find your life a bee nest. In fact, appreciate the thought that you have been gifted this very job. Put your best in it. REmember though, do it only if you are willing to do it. Things never turn up well if the effort is done unwillingly. Love and cherish every moment in your life. Unknowingly, you can make a difference.

Saturday, May 10, 2008

The TOughest Job



To my DEar MOm,...

The toughest job..


A CEO, a lawyer, or a broker,
Which job is harder, you may wonder
What about that of a mother?
Hands down, it's the toughest, no need to ponder


Morning sickness, back pain and weight gain
Nine months later, arrghhh...it's labour pain.
Baby crying, night feeds and three hours of sleep
You would be cranky too, if not weep.


The toughest job that you have procured
Would you do it again? "Oh, but for sure!"
" I love you mom" is music to the ears
"Well done, great job" that is very clear


A toast to you, mom
A toast to all the sacrifices that you have made
You're the greatest, enough said
Happy Mothers' Day, mom!!



yin

Friday, May 9, 2008

I PASSED!!!

I passed my theory exam!!
I PASSED!!! PASSED!!!

to tell you the truth..i sort of expected it * grins* hehe...seriously
although i din't pass whenever i was doing the mock test..somehow i knew it..
haha.. congratulate me pls...i PASSED!!!

lolz..i'm supposed to be studying now. but then..important things have to come first rite?
anyway, jz wanted to share tht i passed my theory exam!!!!

Friday, May 2, 2008

Where were you?

It seems so strange that they all meant so much less to you,
those beautiful moments that we shared.
It is sad to think that everytime you held me close,
deep down inside you never really cared.

I believed in every single word you said,
I believed in every promise you made-

I know now they were merely lies you were telling me,
but they're lies that i'm really going to miss.

I tell my friends I've already gotten over it,
but I never let them see that I'm in pain.

Like I never let you see me neaar your house at night,
standing waiting in the pouriong rain...

Even now I hope that you'll know all decisions made were wrong,
And that you never meant what you have said.

Those words of goodbye were never real,
And maybe tomorrow you will change your mind.

Sometimes I hate you for the things that u've done,
but the hatred never seems to last.

My present and future are so empty now,
Because my heart is still living in the past.

Stop killing me off happiness,
Fill me with emptiness.

Stop burning me everyday,
cause it hurts in everyway.

It's nothing special nor mysterious,
It's nothing really serious.

It just breaks your heart apart,

And make the burning tearsdrops start....

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Exams on the run!!!




bad news..if i fail tis exam, this coming one i mean..


i am going to screw up!!!


i have to cancel all my activities to the minimum...and that will be like "the -end-of my-life" time!!




that will be..my YE, my F1 project, my NIE project, my badminton,the Taylor's thing, my drumzz, my arts...yadda..yadda...


everything but piano and studies!!!!!




worst is i am already prepared to fail my add math, sejarah, bio, physics(can understand a d*mn thing bout wat the teacher was saying)...




hm..hectic schedule..




so hopefully i can ace this one and pull it through..until then i'll have to study and study and...STUDY..




have faith..even a cartoon can work so hard..so can I ! ^^

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Debate Guys!!




yeah, today was the competition day for the state level's debate teams.
In the first round, we were against smk inderawasih. i mean, its not that i want to critisize anyone, but the anyway..the third speaker of that school's debate team was sooo one of a kind!
i mean, he was like, so cool. He went on and on and on so fluently like things were favouring him. But really, even he did admit to me...(when they congratulated us on our victory), that he felt it was baseless and very weak points, but still if you were a debater, that WOULD have to be your duty , wouldn't it be not?

And do you know what actually happened? I mean, its sort of funny, but the fact is..when he was giving his rebuttals, I was kind of worried. Because the fact that he was simply so convincing made me wary of how the judges would judge the whole thing. So, when he was there in front, delivering his rebuttals, i simply shook my head at every single point he tried to rebuttal on. And straight after the competition round, when he shook my hand, he said very "graciously" that he knew I was not agreeing with his points as I had been shaking my head from the very beginning since he started to talk..

hehe, what could i do but say "oh, but your points are really weak. I just HAD to do that. But you were really very convincing..truly.."

and he went : "oh, *laughs* I knew that!"

well, but seriously, they were very sporting even from the beginning. Even when the results were announced, they were very gracious about the whole thing and truly accepted it as a fair match.

Anyway, moving on to the next round where I had to go down to the stand. I wasn't really THAT nervous. But you should have seen the smk Dato Onn's debaters. They were really fluent and all, with their style and yadda..They were quite okay. And when it was my turn to go up to the stand, I started on my rebuttals and then the guy(second speaker of the opposition) went straightly P.O.I-ing me. AHA! I accepted of course.

After the debate, Lynn Hua and Shueh Yin told me that I actually smiled on the stand. And i was like, "o-kay... did i DO THAT? ". I mean, i still don't recall ever laughing or even close to smiling *widely* as accused by them!! but anyway, It was really funny when they told me I actually laughed when i was delivering my speech. They told me the opposition team was "somewhat shocked" to see me laughing.

Yeah of course, when we were congratulating them on their win, the guy from the opposition team came forward and told me that " You deny very sweetly". Excuse me..was that suppose to be critism on my behalf or what? And straightly after he said that, their team's first speaker added in that 'she tried not to P.O.I me because she couldn't bear to do that!'.. I mean, i don't want to sound vain or anything, but they said it in a VERY sincere way..(p.s. You can't blame me for being convinced, right? *all smiles* )

But still, I believe strongly that we could have won. I don't want to raise up certain things that are not pleasant to the ear (or the eyes in this case). But the fact is, after analysing the situation, I feel that we HAD the right to go on to the next team rather that the opposition debaters.

Firstly, I would like to say that they, as the opposition had no firm stand. Their stand was sort of agreeing with us. I mean, in debate, they are not supposed in the LEAST agree with us. And they agreed with us on the stand!! I mean, wasn't it SOOOO obvious that their stand was just plain crap? I belive that the judges should have noticed that, since our first, second, and third speaker had stressed on it again and again, and again. I am very sure that the message had gotten across that the opposition simply was agreeing with our government's stand and thus all the points that they brought up was therefore, baseless.

And yet, the judges were somehow-----. Anyway, it was 2-1. there was one judge in favour of us.
Anyhow, shouldn't the other judges know that the stand of the opposition was a no-no from the first place? haiz..

Well, thing's don't always turn out in the best way possible.But perhaps it is a signal for us that we can make more changes, and that we have a lot more to work on. So, good luck to all debaters out there...and 'add oil' !




yin

Saturday, April 26, 2008

What the Heck?!?

I found this stupid message in frienster, and i thought that i wasn't a very good piece of advice. ANd just to remember myself of that, i decided to put it here, so that i could see it and remind myself of how i thought things to be. Even when i grow older, I may change my concepts and views of life. But still I would want to know how I thought when I was 16. How I saw things from my perspective...

so, here's the message..

Every girl dreams that one day she will find a boy that does these things for her. Even the smallest action can have the BIGGEST impact in someones life.

• give her one of your t-shirts to sleep in.
opinion: What the heck? Wats that for? its not like she doesnt have her own clothes!!!

• leave her cute text notes.
opinion: That's all fine and everything. But just be sure not to send the same things over and over again for years..it may start to get boring..seriously..

• kiss her in front of your friends.
opinion: It's fine with me..but don't make it look as if you are showing her off to your friends. She may start to feel uncomfortable and there goes your "perfect" relationship with her.

• tell her she is gorgeous..
opinion: only if it is true!! Honesty helps a lot to remain a stable relationship. But if she doesn't look gorgeous in your eyes, tell her that she is beautiful for what you like bout her.

• look into her eyes when you talk to her.
opinion: this i totally agree.. after all, it IS a form of respect..

• let her mess with your hair
opinion: hehe, I like to do that sometimes. (of course it has to be clean!!)

• touch her hair.
opinion: It okay..but just don't go to the extent like hz did..

• just walk around with her.
opinion: no opinion

• "FORGiVE HER FOR HER MiSTAKES"
opinion: that is a must. To quote, if you love her as much as you say you do, you must love her enough to forgive her for her mistakes..

• look at her like she`s the only one you see.
opinion: you are going to spoil that girl, dude. Its nice and sweet. Just don't overdo it.

• tickle her even when she says stop.
opnion: seriously, if she really meant stop, do that by all means, unless u are prepared to be ditched by her.

• hold her hand when you're around your friends.
opinion: no opinion.

• when she starts swearing at you, tell her you love her.
opinion: holy!! a good boyfriend shouldn't do that!! its just ridiculus..try understanding her problem instead of telling her u love her jz becaz she swore at u..

• let her fall asleep in your arms..
opinion: aww..tat's so sweet.. ^^

• get her mad, then kiss her.
opinion: stupid idea. What for break that happy moment by getting her mad? Boyfriends who do that are plain crazy and idiotic, i suggest all girls out there to ditch her boyfriend if he starts acting this way.. all this could lead to him abusing you.

• tease her and let her tease you back.
opinion: that's nice.

• stay up all night with her when she's sick.
opinion: Yeah, absolutely.

• watch her favorite movie with her.
opinion: of course. just make sure you don't fall asleep while accompanying her!!

• kiss her forehead.
opinion: no opinion.

• give her the world.
opinion: if you can do that, by all means do..but i doubt that..

• write her letters.
opinion: but don't get mad if she is too busy to write back.

• let her wear your clothes.
opinion: sharing is the most basic thing to remain that relationship.

• when she's sad, hang out with her.
opinion: but don't get her even more upset.

• let her know she's important.
opinion: well, tat's a must perhaps..but it depends..

• let her take all the photos she wants of you.
opinion: what's with the idea? completely brainless idea!!

• kiss her in the pouring rain.
opinion: just make sure she doesn't get wet and fall asick just because you wanted to act romantic.

• when you fall in love with her, tell her.
opinion: watever..

• and when you tell her, love her like you've never loved someone before.
opinion: that's the whole point of telling her ain't it?

so you see..feeling's are generated not by advising someone else how to like a girl or a guy..
its actually how you feel for him or her that you actually want to protect her instinctively, make sure that she is happy and safe..

and always remember:
Trying too hard to impress, DOESN'T impress at all!!